Why are good guildmates so hard to find? - Guild Wars Forums

Jamroar · Jun 10, 2006, 04:09 AM // 04:09

I'm growing more frustrated by the day. I've posted recruitment announcements in several Guild Wars forums and I've not gotten a single response from any of them. Is it too late in the life of the game to find newer players who are my age? (24, but I'd accept 21+ players as well) I had the collector's edition since the game first came out but then WoW took control of my life and Guild Wars sat on the shelf. Now WoW has lost it's luster and I'm back to Guild Wars but finding guildmates for my newly formed guild is next to impossible. I could sit in Ascalon City for days and spam and not get a single whisper. Do you folks have any tips for recruiting more and better quality players for my guild? And before I get "use the search function", I've already read several posts regarding recruitment and none of the methods seemed to have helped. Thanks in advance.

TheSonofDarwin · Jun 10, 2006, 04:46 AM // 04:46

Well, you aren't likely to find "good" ones by advertising on local channels. Best way to find what you want? I say PuGing is the best way. Play through everything you can with others, note the reasonably handicapable people and inform them about what your guild is and if they would like to join that they are welcome. Your age requirements will make it more difficult, so don't expect your guild to grow fast.

Our guild recruits exactly the way I described above. When I was asked to join it was after I finished showing a guild group around the FoW, explaining tactics, etc. We lean towards older people as well, but don't require a particular age. We have quite a few teens much more mature than some older individuals I've run across. We've recently reached a point where we had to split our guild into two as we reached our limit. Making sure the adults hold most of the control helps as well.

But yeah, best way to recruit is by getting to know the person a little, and the best way to do that in GW is to party with them.

Darkpower Alchemist · Jun 10, 2006, 04:52 AM // 04:52

I totally agree with the statement of Darwin. You need to play with the people then see if they would like to join.

Age isn't always the sticking point,but it usually shows up pretty fast in a conversation. That is the best way to get a new guild up and running.

Also,remember,the most important thing about a guild that will make or break it is if the members are actually playing alot.

Less time on,less members will stay.

Stupid Shizno · Jun 10, 2006, 06:00 AM // 06:00

Instead of posting in Ascalon, post in Courthouse, since all the uber people chill there.

Nah, for real...just talk to people, find out what they want in a guild, and find out what you want from a guildie.

DevilStick · Jun 10, 2006, 05:03 PM // 17:03

Hehehe... post in Court House....

kilkelo · Jun 10, 2006, 08:10 PM // 20:10

There are many good guilds around with strong foundations. My advice is looking into them, and see what makes them strong and appealing. What type of guild wil you be, PvP or PvE? Both maybe? What are your playing hours, will there be meetings?

Most importantly, do you really want to be guild leader? Is the sense of power really all that worth it?

Helll is for Heroes · Jun 10, 2006, 09:08 PM // 21:08

a good way of finding decent guild mates is to party with lots of people, when you see a guy you like, throw an invite his way.

Jamroar · Jun 12, 2006, 03:30 AM // 03:30

Thanks for all the suggestions folks!

Atomheart · Jun 12, 2006, 12:54 PM // 12:54

Just be careful...Trust me...I was a guild leader. Spent my time and my money for this but messed up with retards...So last night noone was online and I just...disbanded it and ignored everyone. No I did not act like a bitch.

nohooiam · Jun 12, 2006, 02:37 PM // 14:37

all the good players are in good guilds.

anyone not in a guild are most likely guild hoppers.

yeah, you're pretty much screwed.

S!carius · Jun 12, 2006, 03:05 PM // 15:05

I wouldn't say screwed, but nohooiam is right to some extent. Most good players are in guilds already.

How to find good player? Hang out in ToA when you have favor leading groups to FoW or UW; or even in the elite missions. When you find someone who meets your standards, whisper to them and let them know what your guild is about, and if they are interested. That is also a good way to expand you friends list.

Good luck with your guild.

Derrick the Nomad · Jun 12, 2006, 10:27 PM // 22:27

I would have to agree that MOST of the good players have already found homes -however There are a lot of great players that started guilds that have just died off. Those players should combine -so look for mergers.

You have to do something that makes your guild fun -other than just show up and play the game!
Most of my new members are coming from guilds that have died off -you just have to create an atmosphere that will draw people to you. Something that is fun and has purpose.

EDIT: lol - plugged my comc in this reply and a moderator delelted it. I just want to apologize -it so did not belong in this thread. I guess I do it so much that I don't even realize that i'm doing it. So again i'm sorry for the inappropriate post.

BeowulfKamdas · Jun 13, 2006, 08:18 AM // 08:18

thinking that all good players already have found a good guild is a narrow mindset, I think

I would say that the important part of founding a guild is having a core level of activity so that you don't NEED people to join to stay afloat as a guild. Generally this comes in the form of a group of friends forming as a guild. Then finding players with the right mindset (I.E. friendly and willing to get experienced or is experienced) and kicking out people who are the opposite.

I've been in a lot of guilds that NEEDED that constant flowing in and out of people so it could look healthy when you opened up that guild menu and to be honest those guilds are, more often than not, on the slow train to collapsing.

Matsumi · Jun 13, 2006, 12:00 PM // 12:00

I'm 29, but I've played with some pretty horrible guilds trying to find a good one. I don't really respond to somebody that walks up and says, "Wanna join my guild?". What I like better is if I play with 3-4 of the people in a guild, then a guild leader mentions joining. If I play pretty well with them and like their style, I'll join usually. The last guild I was in had a lot of beggar members in it, you know, the kind that want to borrow money all the time, or items, materials, etc.?

Anyway, I've been playing without a guild for a really long time, and kind of like it that way.

Mr Urthadar · Jun 13, 2006, 03:10 PM // 15:10

Being a guild leader, is a thankless pain in the a**. It's so much work, that you sometimes wonder if it is worth it.

My guild had a leg up, because we started as a group of four friends. I can't even imagine starting a guild from scratch -- I certainly do not envy you.

My guild isn't huge, and we grow *really* slow, but we have a really good mix of people that get along well with one another. Some key things you need to think about when you start recruiting -

1) PvP, PvE or Hybrid
2) Timezones
3) Bond-factor

Item 1 is tough. Our guild is a hybrid, but we lean more torwards PvP. The problem is a lot of people are rabid PvP'rs. It seems tough to find a good PvP/PvE split player. That is those that can PvP worth a flip.

Item 2 is important. You do not want guildies on by themselves. Once you have built a decent membership base, then timezones can play less of a factor. It'd be really cooll to have a `day time' and a `night time' guild.

Item 3 is the most important. I don't know *how* to do this, but you need to ensure that the people you recruit can get along. I think college students and programmers seem to gravitate torwards one another. My guild is comprised mostly of those guys

.

Good luck with it. It's a tough, thankless road.

ju

Mr Urthadar · Jun 13, 2006, 03:22 PM // 15:22

*SORRY DOUBLE POST*

Being a guild leader, is a thankless pain in the a**. It's so much work, that you sometimes wonder if it is worth it.

My guild had a leg up, because we started as a group of four friends. I can't even imagine starting a guild from scratch -- I certainly do not envy you.

My guild isn't huge, and we grow *really* slow, but we have a really good mix of people that get along well with one another. Some key things you need to think about when you start recruiting -

1) PvP, PvE or Hybrid
2) Timezones
3) Bond-factor

Item 1 is tough. Our guild is a hybrid, but we lean more torwards PvP. The problem is a lot of people are rabid PvP'rs. It seems tough to find a good PvP/PvE split player. That is those that can PvP worth a flip.

Item 2 is important. You do not want guildies on by themselves. Once you have built a decent membership base, then timezones can play less of a factor. It'd be really cooll to have a `day time' and a `night time' guild.

Item 3 is the most important. I don't know *how* to do this, but you need to ensure that the people you recruit can get along. I think college students and programmers seem to gravitate torwards one another. My guild is comprised mostly of those guys

.

Good luck with it. It's a tough, thankless road.

ju

Age · Jun 15, 2006, 12:30 AM // 00:30

You may need to recriut some inexprienced players to help them out as that is probably the only way.

master_of_puppets · Jun 15, 2006, 12:45 AM // 00:45

@Mr Urthadar: you can delete your posts...

@OP If you chose WoG (world of grindcraft) over GW, you deserve to be frustrated

LOL

CorstedPirate · Jun 15, 2006, 05:43 AM // 05:43

I very recently disbanded my 2 person guild to merge with a guild that I already considered guildies. After questing with them for 4-5 months it really seemed like the right thing to do. They generally do not advertise that they are recruiting. It is a good way to get filled with bad apples. They like to quest with any potential members a few times first, which is really the best way to go. If the person is already in a guild, it is ok. They are an ally and still a potential member.

Being invited to join [DR] was a real eye opener. I wanted to be part of a large guild, but figured I just had a better option of those I know.

Godsbane · Jun 15, 2006, 09:24 PM // 21:24

yea i understand the problem...just started a pve farming guild (uw, fow, sf etc) and the best way is to lead ur own groupd with a few guildies in them and recruit like that from people in ur groups....

Jun 10, 2006, 04:09 AM // 04:09	#1
Jamroar Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: PA Guild: Order of Y Ddraig Goch Profession: W/Mo	Why are good guildmates so hard to find? I'm growing more frustrated by the day. I've posted recruitment announcements in several Guild Wars forums and I've not gotten a single response from any of them. Is it too late in the life of the game to find newer players who are my age? (24, but I'd accept 21+ players as well) I had the collector's edition since the game first came out but then WoW took control of my life and Guild Wars sat on the shelf. Now WoW has lost it's luster and I'm back to Guild Wars but finding guildmates for my newly formed guild is next to impossible. I could sit in Ascalon City for days and spam and not get a single whisper. Do you folks have any tips for recruiting more and better quality players for my guild? And before I get "use the search function", I've already read several posts regarding recruitment and none of the methods seemed to have helped. Thanks in advance.

Jun 10, 2006, 04:46 AM // 04:46	#2
TheSonofDarwin Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: The Black Hand Gang [BHG] Profession: Mo/	Well, you aren't likely to find "good" ones by advertising on local channels. Best way to find what you want? I say PuGing is the best way. Play through everything you can with others, note the reasonably handicapable people and inform them about what your guild is and if they would like to join that they are welcome. Your age requirements will make it more difficult, so don't expect your guild to grow fast. Our guild recruits exactly the way I described above. When I was asked to join it was after I finished showing a guild group around the FoW, explaining tactics, etc. We lean towards older people as well, but don't require a particular age. We have quite a few teens much more mature than some older individuals I've run across. We've recently reached a point where we had to split our guild into two as we reached our limit. Making sure the adults hold most of the control helps as well. But yeah, best way to recruit is by getting to know the person a little, and the best way to do that in GW is to party with them. Last edited by TheSonofDarwin; Jun 10, 2006 at 04:49 AM // 04:49..

Jun 12, 2006, 10:27 PM // 22:27	#12
Derrick the Nomad Academy Page Join Date: May 2006 Guild: The Gear Trick Profession: E/R	I would have to agree that MOST of the good players have already found homes -however There are a lot of great players that started guilds that have just died off. Those players should combine -so look for mergers. You have to do something that makes your guild fun -other than just show up and play the game! Most of my new members are coming from guilds that have died off -you just have to create an atmosphere that will draw people to you. Something that is fun and has purpose. EDIT: lol - plugged my comc in this reply and a moderator delelted it. I just want to apologize -it so did not belong in this thread. I guess I do it so much that I don't even realize that i'm doing it. So again i'm sorry for the inappropriate post. Last edited by Derrick the Nomad; Jun 14, 2006 at 12:35 AM // 00:35..

Jun 13, 2006, 03:22 PM // 15:22	#16
Mr Urthadar Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Mar 2006 Guild: Fugitives of Kurzick Profession: W/	SORRY DOUBLE POST Being a guild leader, is a thankless pain in the a*. It's so much work, that you sometimes wonder if it is worth it. My guild had a leg up, because we started as a group of four friends. I can't even imagine starting a guild from scratch -- I certainly do not envy you. My guild isn't huge, and we grow really* slow, but we have a really good mix of people that get along well with one another. Some key things you need to think about when you start recruiting - 1) PvP, PvE or Hybrid 2) Timezones 3) Bond-factor Item 1 is tough. Our guild is a hybrid, but we lean more torwards PvP. The problem is a lot of people are rabid PvP'rs. It seems tough to find a good PvP/PvE split player. That is those that can PvP worth a flip. Item 2 is important. You do not want guildies on by themselves. Once you have built a decent membership base, then timezones can play less of a factor. It'd be really cooll to have a `day time' and a `night time' guild. Item 3 is the most important. I don't know how to do this, but you need to ensure that the people you recruit can get along. I think college students and programmers seem to gravitate torwards one another. My guild is comprised mostly of those guys . Good luck with it. It's a tough, thankless road. ju Last edited by Mr Urthadar; Jun 13, 2006 at 03:28 PM // 15:28..

Jun 10, 2006, 04:52 AM // 04:52	#3
Darkpower Alchemist Jungle Guide Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NYC Guild: The Circle Of Nine[NINE] Profession: E/N	I totally agree with the statement of Darwin. You need to play with the people then see if they would like to join. Age isn't always the sticking point,but it usually shows up pretty fast in a conversation. That is the best way to get a new guild up and running. Also,remember,the most important thing about a guild that will make or break it is if the members are actually playing alot. Less time on,less members will stay.

Jun 10, 2006, 06:00 AM // 06:00	#4
Stupid Shizno Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Madison, Wisconsin, USA Guild: [eF] Profession: Mo/	Instead of posting in Ascalon, post in Courthouse, since all the uber people chill there. Nah, for real...just talk to people, find out what they want in a guild, and find out what you want from a guildie.

Jun 10, 2006, 05:03 PM // 17:03	#5
DevilStick Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: East Coast US	Hehehe... post in Court House....

Jun 10, 2006, 08:10 PM // 20:10	#6
kilkelo Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Nov 2005 Guild: Charter Vanguard Profession: N/E	There are many good guilds around with strong foundations. My advice is looking into them, and see what makes them strong and appealing. What type of guild wil you be, PvP or PvE? Both maybe? What are your playing hours, will there be meetings? Most importantly, do you really want to be guild leader? Is the sense of power really all that worth it?

Jun 10, 2006, 09:08 PM // 21:08	#7
Helll is for Heroes Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Dec 2005 Guild: True Cinema Profession: W/	a good way of finding decent guild mates is to party with lots of people, when you see a guy you like, throw an invite his way.

Jun 12, 2006, 03:30 AM // 03:30	#8
Jamroar Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: PA Guild: Order of Y Ddraig Goch Profession: W/Mo	Thanks for all the suggestions folks!

Jun 12, 2006, 12:54 PM // 12:54	#9
Atomheart Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Apr 2006 Profession: Rt/	Just be careful...Trust me...I was a guild leader. Spent my time and my money for this but messed up with retards...So last night noone was online and I just...disbanded it and ignored everyone. No I did not act like a bitch.

Jun 12, 2006, 02:37 PM // 14:37	#10
nohooiam Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Apr 2005 Guild: Forsaken Sanctuary Profession: Mo/Me	all the good players are in good guilds. anyone not in a guild are most likely guild hoppers. yeah, you're pretty much screwed.

Jun 12, 2006, 03:05 PM // 15:05	#11
S!carius Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Germany Guild: Force of Arms [FoA] Profession: Mo/	I wouldn't say screwed, but nohooiam is right to some extent. Most good players are in guilds already. How to find good player? Hang out in ToA when you have favor leading groups to FoW or UW; or even in the elite missions. When you find someone who meets your standards, whisper to them and let them know what your guild is about, and if they are interested. That is also a good way to expand you friends list. Good luck with your guild.

Jun 13, 2006, 08:18 AM // 08:18	#13
BeowulfKamdas Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: none atm Profession: W/E	thinking that all good players already have found a good guild is a narrow mindset, I think I would say that the important part of founding a guild is having a core level of activity so that you don't NEED people to join to stay afloat as a guild. Generally this comes in the form of a group of friends forming as a guild. Then finding players with the right mindset (I.E. friendly and willing to get experienced or is experienced) and kicking out people who are the opposite. I've been in a lot of guilds that NEEDED that constant flowing in and out of people so it could look healthy when you opened up that guild menu and to be honest those guilds are, more often than not, on the slow train to collapsing.

Jun 13, 2006, 12:00 PM // 12:00	#14
Matsumi Jungle Guide Join Date: Mar 2006	I'm 29, but I've played with some pretty horrible guilds trying to find a good one. I don't really respond to somebody that walks up and says, "Wanna join my guild?". What I like better is if I play with 3-4 of the people in a guild, then a guild leader mentions joining. If I play pretty well with them and like their style, I'll join usually. The last guild I was in had a lot of beggar members in it, you know, the kind that want to borrow money all the time, or items, materials, etc.? Anyway, I've been playing without a guild for a really long time, and kind of like it that way.

Jun 13, 2006, 03:10 PM // 15:10	#15
Mr Urthadar Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Mar 2006 Guild: Fugitives of Kurzick Profession: W/	Being a guild leader, is a thankless pain in the a*. It's so much work, that you sometimes wonder if it is worth it. My guild had a leg up, because we started as a group of four friends. I can't even imagine starting a guild from scratch -- I certainly do not envy you. My guild isn't huge, and we grow really* slow, but we have a really good mix of people that get along well with one another. Some key things you need to think about when you start recruiting - 1) PvP, PvE or Hybrid 2) Timezones 3) Bond-factor Item 1 is tough. Our guild is a hybrid, but we lean more torwards PvP. The problem is a lot of people are rabid PvP'rs. It seems tough to find a good PvP/PvE split player. That is those that can PvP worth a flip. Item 2 is important. You do not want guildies on by themselves. Once you have built a decent membership base, then timezones can play less of a factor. It'd be really cooll to have a `day time' and a `night time' guild. Item 3 is the most important. I don't know how to do this, but you need to ensure that the people you recruit can get along. I think college students and programmers seem to gravitate torwards one another. My guild is comprised mostly of those guys . Good luck with it. It's a tough, thankless road. ju

Jun 15, 2006, 12:30 AM // 00:30	#17
Age Hall Hero Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: California Canada/BC Guild: STG Administrator Profession: Mo/	You may need to recriut some inexprienced players to help them out as that is probably the only way.

Jun 15, 2006, 12:45 AM // 00:45	#18
master_of_puppets Krytan Explorer Join Date: Apr 2006 Guild: I dont like guilds... Profession: Mo/E	@Mr Urthadar: you can delete your posts... @OP If you chose WoG (world of grindcraft) over GW, you deserve to be frustrated LOL

Jun 15, 2006, 05:43 AM // 05:43	#19
CorstedPirate Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jan 2006 Guild: Knights of the Void Profession: Mo/	I very recently disbanded my 2 person guild to merge with a guild that I already considered guildies. After questing with them for 4-5 months it really seemed like the right thing to do. They generally do not advertise that they are recruiting. It is a good way to get filled with bad apples. They like to quest with any potential members a few times first, which is really the best way to go. If the person is already in a guild, it is ok. They are an ally and still a potential member. Being invited to join [DR] was a real eye opener. I wanted to be part of a large guild, but figured I just had a better option of those I know.

Jun 15, 2006, 09:24 PM // 21:24	#20
Godsbane Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: FoW spider cave	yea i understand the problem...just started a pve farming guild (uw, fow, sf etc) and the best way is to lead ur own groupd with a few guildies in them and recruit like that from people in ur groups....